Grabbed by the Tentacles: An Interview with Guitarist Ed Wynne of Ozric Tentacles
By Brian Knight
This past October, the newly
reopened Paradise night club welcomed England’s Ozric Tentacles. A year earlier, the eighteen year old
space-ambient-progressive world sounds of Ozric Tentacles made quite an
impression on the New England. Due to
the success of their 1999 tour, the Ozrics returned to the United States for
yet another great evening at the Paradise.
As they were 1999, Ozric tentacles are presently supporting a new album. This time around, their masterful effort is titled The Hidden Step, which was released by the always impressive label,
Phoenix Media. The organization is
already responsible for bring the public some of today’s great jam bands and
rocking bands of the 1970s and 1980s.
The Ozric Tentacles release is a testament to the fact that jamming is far from an
American phenomenon.
Named after a mythical breakfast
cereal, Ozric Tentacles came together during the 1980s and they have since
evolved into a cult favorite throughout England and Europe. Ozric Tentacles are similar to America’s
NRBQ, or England’s Jazz Butcher Conspiracy in terms of developing incredibly
loyal fan bases, staying together for a long period of time and staying
underneath the media frenzy radar.
Throughout the years, the band has experienced numerous lineup changes
but with guitarist Ed Wynne always as the helm.
For the concert at the Paradise,
the band focused much of their attention on their new material from The Hidden Step while other songs such as
“Vita Voom” and “Sploosh” from 1998’s Spice Doubt, and “Myriapod”
was from 1994’s Arborescence. In addition to their many albums, Ozric
Tentacles covered the vast array of styles that occurs on their albums. At moments, their music is riff driven and
reminiscent of hard rockin' acid rock bands such as Hawkwind or Steve Hillage.
At other instances, they achieve tight cohesive escalating jams like Phish. And then again, there music experiments
with new age ambient grooves and other times, their music looks toward the
techno-ambient grooves that are now so popular.
To help create this overwhelming
sonic experiences, Seaweed uses a wide variety of electronics such as an
Ensoniq SQ-R, Roland JX-8P, Roland W-30 Music workstation, -OSCar, Korg
MS-20, Roland JP-8000 and a EMS synthi
AKS. Watching Seaweed is like play is
like watching a mad scientist hard work.
Hunched over his vast array of knobs and dials, it is obvious that
Seaweed is hard at work creating psychedelic grooves. Meanwhile Ed employs a variety of keyboards and synths such as
Korg Prophecy, Roland D-50, Sequential Pro-1, OSC OSCar as well as guitars -
Ibanez GEM, Ibanez Artist (woodgrain), and an assortment of stage echoes,
WahWahs, overdrives, choruses, compressors, flangers and phasers. In comparison, the flute, drum kit and bass
guitar played by John, Red and Roly show that it isn’t who has the most toys,
it is how you use them. The Ozric
musical experience goes well beyond the five musicians. Haggis is the wizard at the soundboard while
Fruit Salad puts on one hell of a psychedelic spectacle with backdrops, strobes
and excessive amounts of smoke. . Before their Boston Paradise show, The
Vermont Review spoke to guitarist and band founder Ed Wynne while the band was
amidst their UK tour .
Vermont Review: Where am I calling
right now?
Ed Wynne: We are in South Hampton,
which is in the south of England, along the coast. I am in the dressing room of a club where we are about to play
tonight.
VR: Do you have a good following
in South Hampton?
EW: We are about to find out. Usually it is pretty good. It should be fine.
VR: What kind of places do you
play in?
EW: Yes, clubs at the moment. Medium sized clubs. It is nice with these intimate gigs.
VR: Do the Ozrics play outside a
lot during the summer?
EW: Yes. Whenever we
can. It does not happen in England that
much. We have to go across to Europe
for that.
VR: Which setting would you rather
play in?
EW: Outdoors. I reckon.
Outdoors on a sunny day or a sunny evening. There is nothing like it and the sound quality is so nice because
it is outside. There is more energy
because there is more fresh air, which is great.
VR: Do you find that you lose some
of the musical intensity by being outside?
EW: That is the reason to go into
the clubs because it is all intense. It
is really nice to do both. The medium
sized outdoor gigs can be just as mad.
VR: When you play in America, you
have to deal with curfews. Do you get
the same in England?
EW: Oh, yeah. In England we do. It is usually about midnight we have to stop. We get used to it. At festivals, it is a different thing. We can play all night if we wanted to.
VR: When you were lat in the
United States, you were received pretty well.
Did you have any expectations?
EW: We had a little bit of an idea
of what to expect because we had been there before. It was pretty much what we expected. It was really good fun.
VR: You recorded Waterfall
Cities in a 400 year old Castle. Is
that where you recorded The Hidden Step?
EW: No. That was recorded in
my new home. I moved from that
place. Now, I live fairly near there
but a different house.
VR: How do you come across a 400
year old castle to live in?
EW: Well, it wasn’t a castle. It was a mill house. An old…I don’t know what they used to mill
there really but it had a big water wheel and a river going past it. It was amazing.
VR: Had it been updated?
EW: A little bit but the trouble
is that I had gotten sick of the place because every time it rained, we would
get flooded. My cats didn’t like waking
up and finding their food bowls floating across the kitchen floor. It happened about ten times in five
years.
VR: Old buildings have a lot of
charm but their plumbing sucks.
EW: That’s right. Absolutely.
Now I live in a newer place and its actually quite a relief.
VR: Your band’s name is derived
from a mythical cereal. Have you
thought about what flavor that cereal would be?
EW: No. It could be anything.
Something nice I hope.
VR: No little magical charms or
anything like that?
EW: Little things that people
could find hidden in there. Tucked
away.
VR: After eighteen years, how has the Ozric Tentacle’s fan base
evolved?
EW: It is a very wide cross section as it always has been. From old to young. It has stayed like that really.
It really depends on what country we are playing in. One of our biggest places to play is
Italy. It is amazing there because you
get loads of people coming out. Its
really good. But they are from all
walks of life.
VR: Italy seems to have a tradition of embracing improv rock or
progressive rock. Is there any reason
behind that?
EW: I really don’t know but I am
really glad to have found them because we fit very well into their idea of what
a band should be. I really don’t
understand where it comes from.
VR: When you play a given song on one night, will it be completely
different at the next performance?
EW: It depends on the song. Often what we have is the tunes that we have
recorded and than at the end of the tune, we let it go off into a jam. The essential music is pretty similar but
the solos are usually that night’s versions.
VR: Do you use set lists?
EW: Yes.
VR: Will you use the same set list
night after night?
EW: In the states, no. In America, people do come and see us for
more than one show so we are going to try to vary it. We are going to keep it fluid.
We will hopefully bend and twist things about a little bit.
VR: Progressive music is often
criticized for being orchestrated and overindulgent. I would think quite the opposite with your sound.
EW: I don’t really think we are
progressive. It is hard to define what
people mean by the word progressive. I
know what you mean – it has come to mean intellectual music, which most people
can’t understand. With us, we go to
these places in our music but we try to lead people there along a pathway so
they can understand it by the time they get there.
VR: In America, your music would
fall more into the jam band scene.
EW: That sounds better. It sounds less pompous than progressive.
VR: Are you the only guys doing
what you do over there?
EW: No really but we are the only
ones with our particular flavor. They
are a few other bands doing similar stuff.
VR: Where does the ethnicity in your music derive from?
EW: It comes from the music that I
listen to when I am not recording and gigging.
Eastern and Indian and Arabic and stuff like that. That is my favorite kind of music.
VR: There is presently quite a
movement of combining American jazz with Middle Eastern/Balkan/Mediterranean
music occurring in New York City right now.
EW: Is there really? That is interesting. Maybe they will like it when we play
it.
VR: I am going to name some names
of musicians. I would love to hear what
you have to say about them. Steve
Hillage?
EW: Yes. Best experience of my life.
He completely changed my outlook on the guitar.
VR: David Gilmore?
EW: I like some of his solos. He is a very relevant guitarist but not my
favorite but I do appreciate what he does.
VR: Radiohead?
EW: Never listen to them.
VR: Phish?
EW: I went and saw them once. Again, not my cup of tea but I was highly
entertained watching them. I was also
amazed to see them all swap instruments and make tune without a break.
VR: Porcupine Tree?
EW: Toured with them once. Find them a little bit slow but again, I do
appreciate what they do. Very
influenced by Pink Floyd.
VR: Brian Eno?
EW: Very good. I liked what he did then when he did it.
VR: Dave Brock?
EW: Good old Dave Brock. Thank him for all that. That was fun.
VR: Jerry Garcia?
EW: An amazing soloist.
VR: Can?
EW: Yes. I like them. I find a
have a little of a problem with the actual sound of their music. It sounds a little bit like a rehearsal with
a tape deck in the corner of the room.
There is one album called Sole Delight, which I really do like.
VR: Do you use a lot of production
when you are in the studio?
EW: I suppose you call it
production. We just go in there and I
sit behind the desk and orchestrate what is going on there.
VR: Is that production hard to translate into your live performances?
EW: No. Thanks to samplers, we can get most of the sound and play them
live.
VR: Do use a lot of sequencing as
well?
EW: Yes. Quite a lot.
VR: How long did it take to record
The Hidden Step?
EW: Hard to say because it was on
and off for about a year. Each album is
a year’s worth of tunes and then a mad rush at the end to get it all
finished. All in all, about four
months.
VR: Do you look at your albums as
an elaboration of the previous one or do they stand alone?
EW: Again, it is hard to say. At the time, we do the tunes as they come
into our heads. We just see what comes
out.
VR: Where does an Ozric’s song
come to life – on the stage or in the studio?
EW: Usually, in the studio
first. When we do it on the stage, it
is quite interesting. Mainly, it starts
in the studio but some times the jams turn into tunes.
VR: Do you try to keep up with
technological advancements?
EW: Yes. Definitely. When a new
synth comes along, it is a nice excuse to make a new tune.
VR: Would there ever be a chance
of hearing Ozric Tentacles unplugged?
EW Well! That would be tricky. We
would have to pick the tunes very carefully.
But I reckon that I could probably hold it together if it was the right
tune. I am actually starting to play
acoustic guitar on stage now. So, I am
getting used to that. It is a very
interesting thing for me. It is a very
nice thing to be able to do.
VR: It seem that your light and
sound men are integral components to the Ozric experience. Would you consider them members of the band?
EW: Very much so. Jasper, on the lights, knows the sets as
well as we do. Haggis, who does the
mixing, is also the same. He also knows
the tunes. It is a whole tight little unit that works.
VR: What has been keeping you
going for the last eighteen years?
EW: The music. That fact that I never tired of doing
it. I love it so much and it is great
to perform. And when you have done
enough performing, it is great to go into the studio and do that. It is a really nice cycle of life. And it seem to work………for me anyways.
VR: Has the media been a friend or
a foe for those eighteen years?
EW: In England, they were a friend for about three weeks and than it
has been pretty derogatory, really. In
the States, people are much more honest and very friendly and helpful.
VR: With the English critics,
don’t you think that after eighteen years that maybe they have had it wrong,
and you have had it right all these time?
EW: I think that they are about to
come around to that. We didn’t go
way. They tried to make us go away, we
didn’t do it. Here we are still. Maybe they will come out then.
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